He has no clue that he will try to (and inevitably) break the pact. We don’t know who killed her. First, as a Lestrange it’s There's so many issues with this movie, I still love it but if it was pushed back 6 months maybe it wouldn't be so flawed. I mean Grindelwald is meant to be around the same age as Albus Dumbledore and he is acting as a The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. I dunno, maybe Rowling will try to introduce some contrived explanation to make Credence Ariana's son somehow - maybe make her an Obscurial, with him being a part of her that broke off (although wouldn't that make him some kind of Horcrux? .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} Creedance is just a random child with an Obscurus, and Grindelwald needed something more powerful than himself and Albus to try to defeat him. But then Grindelwald calls him Albus' brother. A subreddit to discuss the new installments in the Wizarding World, the Fantastic Beasts series! Grindelwald is lying completely to Creedance, and is using his immense, uncontrollable power to try to take out Albus. Ehh, I don’t think she’s a sloppy writer, she just shouldn’t write screenplays. She's probably building up to some sort of luke/vadar moment at the end of the fourth movie. ._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ{border:1px solid transparent;display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%;border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-body);border-radius:4px;box-sizing:border-box}._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ:hover{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-primaryButtonTintedEighty)}._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ._2FebEA49ReODemDlwzYHSR,._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ:active,._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ:hover{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText)}._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ._2FebEA49ReODemDlwzYHSR,._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ:active{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-primaryButtonShadedEighty)}._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ:disabled,._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ[data-disabled],._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ[disabled]{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-primaryButtonTintedFifty);color:rgba(var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText),.5);fill:rgba(var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText),.5);cursor:not-allowed}._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ:active,._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ:disabled,._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ:hover,._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ[data-disabled],._1zyZUfB30L-DDI98CCLJlQ[disabled]{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-body)}._1O2i-ToERP3a0i4GSL0QwU,._1uBzAtenMgErKev3G7oXru{display:block;fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);height:22px;width:22px}._1O2i-ToERP3a0i4GSL0QwU._2ilDLNSvkCHD3Cs9duy9Q_,._1uBzAtenMgErKev3G7oXru._2ilDLNSvkCHD3Cs9duy9Q_{height:14px;width:14px}._2kBlhw4LJXNnk73IJcwWsT,._1kRJoT0CagEmHsFjl2VT4R{height:24px;padding:0;width:24px}._2kBlhw4LJXNnk73IJcwWsT._2ilDLNSvkCHD3Cs9duy9Q_,._1kRJoT0CagEmHsFjl2VT4R._2ilDLNSvkCHD3Cs9duy9Q_{height:14px;width:14px}._3VgTjAJVNNV7jzlnwY-OFY{font-size:14px;line-height:32px;padding:0 16px}._3VgTjAJVNNV7jzlnwY-OFY,._3VgTjAJVNNV7jzlnwY-OFY._2ilDLNSvkCHD3Cs9duy9Q_{font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;text-transform:uppercase}._3VgTjAJVNNV7jzlnwY-OFY._2ilDLNSvkCHD3Cs9duy9Q_{font-size:12px;line-height:24px;padding:4px 9px 2px;width:100%}._2QmHYFeMADTpuXJtd36LQs{font-size:14px;line-height:32px;padding:0 16px}._2QmHYFeMADTpuXJtd36LQs,._2QmHYFeMADTpuXJtd36LQs._2ilDLNSvkCHD3Cs9duy9Q_{font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;text-transform:uppercase}._2QmHYFeMADTpuXJtd36LQs._2ilDLNSvkCHD3Cs9duy9Q_{font-size:12px;line-height:24px;padding:4px 9px 2px;width:100%}._2QmHYFeMADTpuXJtd36LQs:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._2QmHYFeMADTpuXJtd36LQs ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._2QmHYFeMADTpuXJtd36LQs:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._2QmHYFeMADTpuXJtd36LQs ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none}._2CLbCoThTVSANDpeJGlI6a{width:100%}._2CLbCoThTVSANDpeJGlI6a:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._2CLbCoThTVSANDpeJGlI6a ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._2CLbCoThTVSANDpeJGlI6a:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._2CLbCoThTVSANDpeJGlI6a ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} At the end of the second film in the new series, Gellert Grindelwald (played by Johnny Depp) tells Ezra Miller’s Credence Barebone that he is actually Albus Dumbledore’s brother, Aurelius. SIGH, From the Harry Potter wiki - “At the age of six, Ariana was attacked by Muggle boys who saw her practising magic, which left her traumatised to the point of rendering her magical abilities uncontrollable.”, Also: “During a fit when she was fourteen years old, Ariana caused a magical explosion that killed her mother.”. You had so many chances to spell Credence right . Perhaps not, and Credence was given away at birth, never talked about to Albus, Aberforth, and Ariana by Kendra. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{border-top:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-lineColor);margin-top:12px;padding-top:12px}._3AOoBdXa2QKVKqIEmG7Vkb{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);border-radius:4px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;margin-top:12px}.vzEDg-tM8ZDpEfJnbaJuU{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);height:14px;width:14px}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between}._2ygXHcy_x6RG74BMk0UKkN{margin-left:8px}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._3BmRwhm18nr4GmDhkoSgtb{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText);-ms-flex:0 0 auto;flex:0 0 auto;line-height:16px} Agreed actually, it seems so obvious considering how grindelwald manipulated evened in the movie, This is what I thought watching the film, but I’ve grown to fancy the idea that Ariana’s obscurity resides in Credence, I keep going back to the idea that Grindelwald believes._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} However, Aurelius is an entirely new Dumbledore, and it’s hard to imagine how on earth he could even be distantly Leta Lestrange (Zoe Kravitz) confesses in the Lestrange tomb that she 'killed' her brother Corvus. If Credence is Dumbledore's maternal half-brother, the youngest he could be is 28.) In the film, it is said that Grindelwald and Dumbledore cannot fight each other because of their blood pact. Aurelius Dumbledore is the lost brother of Albus Dumbledore, revealed by Gellert Grindelwald to Credence Barebone at the end of “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald”. Maybe Grindelwald was lying? Grindelwald, wanting to help Albus escape his guardianship of Ariana, fakes her death, maybe wipes her memory, and ships her off to who-knows-where (probably this one, so we can scapegoat the bad guy), Dumbledore, knowing she will be more safe and out of the way, and for his own ambitions, ships her off and fakes her death (too dark), Aberforth, fearing Grindelwald will hurt her one day, and because he loves goats so much, helps her escape to protect her (escape goat), Either way…she gets shipped off and SHE’S STILL ALIVE SIGH. Hence fawkes being there for credence, fawkes recognizes part of credence as being a Dumbledore and needing the most amount of protection. ), or hell maybe make her alive and pin the final nail in the "let's ruin Albus's entire motivations and regrets" coffin, who the hell knows. We've also never heard of another Dumbledore sibling until now, which is weird when you consider that someone, somewhere, with all the wizarding powers in the world, could have sleuthed that skeleton out of the world renown Dumbledore family closet. I made a thread weeks ago about my theory that he was dumbledores son, first time I've seen someone else mention it, personally I'm convinced this is the way it will go...and maybe Dumbledore was possibly on the boat that night. In Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindlewald, it's theoretically possible that Gellert Grindelwald lied to Credence Barebone about being Aurelius Dumbledore. Their lifeboat sailed to safety… You gave 3 possbilities, but those aren't the only 3. Either way, I absolutely agree that Rowling is nowhere near as clever as she thinks she is, and whatever she pulls in Fantastic Beasts 3 will probably be too much of a stretch. Lots of exposition revealed through dialogue. Just my opinion that I HOPE is wrong for the sake of the Harry Potter universe. Can someone explain how credence can be Dumbledore’s brother?? .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{height:24px;vertical-align:middle;width:24px}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} Just like Credence from the trauma of his whole life situation. Also, people thought Credence was born in 1904 due to an adoption paper, but no one knew when Credence was born as he was swapped. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Once Dumbledore and Aberforth headed to … Perhaps so, and Albus is just keeping it in, waiting for the right time. So for Kendra, we have a very short time frame. I will be really disappointed otherwise. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/ReredditLink.f7b66a91705891e84a09.css.map*/ Credence is his brother only because the Phoenix showed up for Credence. SO because I’m still SIGH From the Harry Potter wiki - “At the age of six, Ariana was attacked by Muggle boys who saw her practising magic, which left her traumatised to the point of rendering her magical abilities uncontrollable.” I know I’m missing something... Dumbledore once sent Harry Potter the Phoenix when Harry was in trouble. But still possible considering. This is a place for fans of various creative works to share theories, interpretations and speculation related to that particular creative work. If he really is telling the truth, it’s likely to be confirmed in later movies, but for now it’s early to think Credence is actually Dumbledore’s long-lost brother - he still might (There could even be a Time-Turner involved… but let’s please, please not go there.) His brother, Aberforth, appears in Harry Potter and the … No one did. It seems strange that there’s been no mention at all of a fourth Dumbledore sibling. Credence can be a true Dumbledore brother, or literally anyone’s child; anything is possible. Fantastic Beasts 2 is set in 1927. Creedance is not blood related to Dumbledore, but instead hosts her Obscurus. He tells Credence that his “brother” has been trying to stop him, implying that his brother is Albus Dumbledore. Because of this, the Pheonix is drawn to Creedance because of him hosting a part of Ariana. The Dumbledores originally lived in Mould-on-the-Wold, but moved to Godric's Hollow after Percival Dumbledore was sent to Azkaban for attacking Muggles; he did not inform the authorities that his actions were in retaliation for the Muggles' traumatising attack on his daughter, Ariana. The escape goat part killed me. I think people get so involved in this fictional world and the dates and everything that they forget this is a story, and stories tend to connect. Therefore, Grindelwald needs someone else powerful enough to defeat Dumbledore. I also seriously doubt Kendra could have gotten pregnant in time with locals like Bathilda Bagshot noticing; surely this tidbit would have been included in Rita Skeeter's scathing biography of Albus. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.361933014be843c79476.css.map*/._2ppRhKEnnVueVHY_G-Ursy{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:22px 0 0;min-height:200px;overflow:hidden;position:relative}._2KLA5wMaJBHg0K2z1q0ci_{margin:0 -7px -8px}._1zdLtEEpuWI_Pnujn1lMF2{bottom:0;position:absolute;right:52px}._3s18OZ_KPHs2Ei416c7Q1l{margin:0 0 22px;position:relative}.LJjFa8EhquYX8xsTnb9n-{filter:grayscale(40%);position:absolute;top:11px}._2Zjw1QfT_iMHH7rfaGsfBs{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background:linear-gradient(180deg,rgba(0,121,211,.24),rgba(0,121,211,.12));border-radius:50%;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;height:25px;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center;margin:0 auto;width:25px}._2gaJVJ6_j7vwKV945EABN9{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);border-radius:50%;height:15px;width:15px;z-index:1} He was switched in the crib by a young Leta Lestrange for her half-brother Corvus because he was crying. ._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ{border-top:1px solid var(--newRedditTheme-line);margin-top:16px;padding-top:16px}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN{margin:0;padding:0}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN ._2btz68cXFBI3RWcfSNwbmJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:21px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;margin:8px 0}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN ._2btz68cXFBI3RWcfSNwbmJ.QgBK4ECuqpeR2umRjYcP2{opacity:.4}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN ._2btz68cXFBI3RWcfSNwbmJ label{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN ._2btz68cXFBI3RWcfSNwbmJ label svg{fill:currentColor;height:20px;margin-right:4px;width:20px}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._4OtOUaGIjjp2cNJMUxme_{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;padding:0;width:100%}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._4OtOUaGIjjp2cNJMUxme_ svg{display:inline-block;height:12px;width:12px}.isInButtons2020 ._4OtOUaGIjjp2cNJMUxme_{padding:0 12px}.isInButtons2020 ._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:unset;line-height:16px;text-transform:unset}._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F{--textColor:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor);--textColorHover:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColorShaded80);font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;color:var(--textColor);fill:var(--textColor);opacity:1}._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F._2UlgIO1LIFVpT30ItAtPfb{--textColor:var(--newRedditTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor);--textColorHover:var(--newRedditTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColorShaded80)}._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F:active,._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F:hover{color:var(--textColorHover);fill:var(--textColorHover)}._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F:disabled,._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F[data-disabled],._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F[disabled]{opacity:.5;cursor:not-allowed} Given that Grindelwald refers to Albus as Credence's brother, and assuming Grindelwald is telling the truth, then that means Credence can't be Ariana's child, as that would make Albus Credence's uncle. He wouldn't tell Creedance because the emotional drama of him believing he is a Dumbledore will give Creedance even more power. Grindelwald lied to him by saying Dumbledore is his brother and that he seeks to destroy him, to get Credence to seek revenge against him and kill him. Is Credence really related to Dumbledore? SIGH. This is where Rowling thinks she’s a secret genius: The worst part, when he finally finds her in the last film she will help him to understand his Obscurial-ness. The big secret that Rowling has been sitting on for all these years, Ariana is an Obscurial. ._2YJDRz5rCYQfu8YdgB_neb{overflow:hidden;position:relative}._2YJDRz5rCYQfu8YdgB_neb:before{background-image:url(https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/img/reddit_pattern.png);content:"";filter:var(--newCommunityTheme-invertFilter);height:100%;position:absolute;width:100%}._37WD6iicVS6vGN0RomNTwh{padding:0 12px 12px;position:relative} Dumbledore’s obituary mentioned only a brother and a sister. As for Percival, well, we don't exactly know the year in which he died, nor if his sentence was permanent. Grindelwald cannot possibly know that the pact-vial was given to Albus. Fantastic Beasts Theory: Credence ISN'T A [SPOILER] In Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, Gellert Grindelwald could actually be lying to Credence Barebone about his supposed true identity. Anyway, I don't want to go into who the father might be as it will all be explained in the sequel but this is my theory on how it's going to play out. Hi everyone!! I watched it today and my theory is that he is her son. I mean Grindelwald is meant to be around the same age as Albus Dumbledore and he is acting as a father figure to Credence. Credence is a Dumbledore…because he is Ariana Dumbledore’s son. The ship later sank during a storm and Credence was taken by Leta and Irma Dugard to a lifeboat. I seriously doubt Percival would have remarried - everything he did, he did for the safety of his family, and he could have easily told the truth about Ariana's situation and gotten a reduced sentence. Everyone figured it out already. That just leaves Percival and Kendra Dumbledore. Creedance is the son of Albus, who did not know he fathered a son. moist popular theory is that arianna's obscurus now resides in credence. It's weird, everyone's instant thought was that he was a brother, it wasn't mine at all, he looks WAY too young to be a brother. This whole theory is based on the what you believe to be true. Is it possible that maybe Dumbledore is trying to protect credence so HE sent the Phoenix to him? Is Credence really Albus Dumbledore’s brother? Also, Dumbledore brought up Ariana's death in this Crimes of Grindelwald film... so like... yeah, it'll play out in the sequel and everything will come together. The short answer is no - Kendra was killed in June of 1899, and, again, Credence/Aurelius wasn't born until 1901 at the earliest, so it's not possible that Kendra is his mother. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} Anyway, for the sake of the series and the fandom I hope the Credence is Dumbledore thing if just Grindelwald bulshit. If you've seen The Crimes of Grindelwald you'll know about the massive twist at the end, it's revealed that Credence Barebone is actually Aurelius Dumbledore. The ship's voyage was in 1901 and so the wiki is now saying that is probably when he was born. Credence's earliest year of birth (as listed on the wiki) is 1899, and Kendra was killed in the summer of that same year. At this point, she's set it up to be really cliche. By nature, the Obscurus takes on properties of its host, essentially becoming part of them. If Credence is Dumbledore’s full blood brother, then the very youngest he could be, according to he established canonical timeline of the Harry Potter universe, is 36 years old. Now here's what I'm thinking, sometime between 1899 and 1901... she became pregnant (a teen pregnancy yes, I know, but it does happen, I'm really not sure why people are saying it's impossible just because she was approximately only 15 or 16, in fact teen pregnancies were quite a common problem in England during the time of the first Harry Potter books being written). I thought that was obvious enough at the end. Now, here’s where things get a bit tricky. And that Credence’s brother … This doesn't make sense. It's weird, everyone's instant thought was that he was a brother, it wasn't mine at all, he looks WAY too young to be a brother. Grindlewald tells Credence that phoenixes always appear to a Dumbledore in their time of need, because HE IS DUMBLEDORE’S BROTHER. Do you agree with me that Credence is the son of Percival Dumbledore? ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Credence Barebone was born around 1901, allegedly to the Dumbledore family, as Aurelius Dumbledore, according to Gellert Grindelwald.In 1901, Credence was taken by his aunt on a ship heading to America. There's absolutely no way he could have known about Credence's heritage if Percival was the father, and if Grindelwald was able to learn of Credence's birth if Kendra was the mother, then so should Albus and everyone else in Godric's Hollow. Therefore, the trauma she had from the attack caused her to become one at a young age. This is an open area. I did think for a second too that it could be grindelwalds but the fact that the phoenix shows up made me scrap that idea. Was he lying? From looking on various wikis there is this suggestion that Ariana died during a fight with Albus and Grindelwald and that they stopped being friends soon after. I like this and all, but Grindelwald says "Your brother seeks to kill you," referring to Albus, to Credence at the big reveal. Ok, so he does say brother, but another theory is Credence is Ariana's son. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} These are just the most plausible possibilities. One puzzling question hanging in the air as we wait for the next film is whether Albus knew that Credence/Aurelius was his brother. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Or are you just making fun of Aberforth’s affinity with goats??? This will actually most likely get buried because it’s not going to a long-winded theory with lots of evidence. But the wikis suggest their friendship only lasted a couple of months... which doesn't seem right at all... so I don't think she died in 1899 as people think and I think people are confused as to when that duel actually happened. As far as we know, Albus Dumbledore only has one brother and one sister. Wiki: “Ariana died when she was accidentally struck by a curse in a three-way duel between her older brothers and Gellert Grindelwald.”. I agree though, the reveal on who Creedance really is, is going to be rather lackluster. 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